- Cobalt TiNor
- February 23th, 2012
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Proverbs 13:24 (NIV): – “Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.”
Matthew 12:37-40 (NIV): – 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
1 Peter 4:8 (NIV): – “Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.”
Proverbs 10:12 (NIV): – “Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.”
The solution may not be mercy and grace, as much as Christians believe that it is God’s method.
In Proverbs it says that “Whoever spares the rod hates their children…” (Proverbs 13:24 NIV), indicating that punishment must occur. What makes us believe that if we circumvent punishment that love will make things better? Is it 1 Peter 4:8 or maybe perhaps what could be the original verse in Proverbs 10:12. God’s mercy and grace I believe is more like mitigation of consequences with love or sometimes, love through unmitigated consequences. But I believe to eliminate consequences/punishment is to effectively destroy any concept or difference between right and wrong. Even if punishment is only taken away for one person, you perpetuate the problem.
In example let’s take it back to the supposed Garden Of Eden, Adam could have said “Eve ate the fruit and she didn’t die. Hmmm… alright, I’ll eat it too.” Especially if no wrong is ever punished, not only do you confirm those who would have hidden their wrong and acted like they were doing right, but also, people who would have normally done what is right whether by obedience alone or by desire, those people as well may in mass quantities be swayed to do what is wrong.
So the solution I believe is not elimination of punishment, unless of course God is going to act with another miracle by doing something like overriding free-will and changing people’s hearts. That solution would bring up another problem, the problem of free-will. I believe that God knows the future but does not force us and does not make us do anything. If God was going to override free-will now that also brings up the questions of…
If God is going to override free-will now why did he give free-will in the first place?
Why does free-will matter?
What prompted God now, of all times to take away free will as opposed to the times when Hitler slaughtered Jews?
Why not with WWI?
Why not WWII?
Why not with Hiroshima?
What would make God take away free-will now and not at any time in the past?
But I digress… point is as much as love is important and yes I agree love is the second most important commandment (Matthew 12:28-31) I do not believe love (Proverbs 10:12) is more important than or reason enough to eliminate punishment and consequences (Proverbs 13:24). Love without punishment and consequences, I believe eliminates morality, and a world devoid of morality is a world in chaos and anarchy. I believe a world in chaos and anarchy is a world of death, a world not exactly far from what reality already is. We need not be born sinners to die, we need not have sinned to die as well.
We have to interpret the bible, because if we take it at face value, it’s a human mess, containing contradictions, and I believe some contradictions may never be resolved. These passages I feel are another example of contradictions in the bible especially when taking it at face value. Am I saying that the bible should never be taken at face value? No!
I have said it time and time again, and I will repeat it here. The bible was written by man, for man, with quite possibly the best of intentions. Unfortunately the bible is not inerrant, humans and all our creations are flawed, and the best intentions do not mean the best outcomes. There is no way possibly that the bible is an inerrant supernatural document provided directed from an omniscient being.